{"id":28318,"date":"2021-07-15T07:01:34","date_gmt":"2021-07-15T07:01:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/?p=28318"},"modified":"2023-11-27T08:02:15","modified_gmt":"2023-11-27T08:02:15","slug":"can-you-still-get-rich-or-wealthy-investing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/expats\/can-you-still-get-rich-or-wealthy-investing\/","title":{"rendered":"Can you STILL get rich or wealthy investing?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of my most viewed articles is <a href=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/howtobecomerichbyinvesting\/\">investing vs speculation &#8211; how you can get rich investing.&nbsp;<\/a> It argues why it is possible to become wealthy slowly on a middle-income via investing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Many people understand this point and the past returns of the stock markets as shown by these returns:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"605\" src=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a11-1024x605.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28320\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a11-1024x605.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a11-300x177.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a11-768x454.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a11-81x48.jpeg 81w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a11.jpeg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Source, Business Insider<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet one of the main questions I get asked is \u201cstock markets have historically performed really well. I know nobody can predict the future for sure, but do you think markets will do so well in the future?\u201d.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this article, I will look at some of the reasons why asset prices could exceed historical norms and other reasons why they might not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Reasons for&nbsp;<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>1.&nbsp; Interest rates\/QE&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We have to remember that we are living in unique times.&nbsp; Interest rates are at 0%, or close to zero, in most parts of the world.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bonds aren\u2019t paying much better.&nbsp; As Warren Buffett recently said on the video below, stocks look cheap now, because interest rates to stock markets are like oxygen or blood is to the human body.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Pa2KjuRbjaM\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>When big companies can borrow money at close to 0%, and invest for growth, that is very good for the markets, as is the lack of any real alternative apart from maybe real estate which is a hassle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In comparison, when interest rates are super high, fixed income becomes more attractive relative to stock markets. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For example, in 1999\/2000, interest rates were 3%-5% in many developed countries, and government bonds paid up to 6%.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When there was an easy and \u201csafe\u201d alternative, people were more likely to take some money off the table.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, interest rates won\u2019t remain at 0% forever, although they are looking like they will in Japan and some parts of Europe.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet the days of high-interest rates seem a long way off. We haven&#8217;t been there for at least 13 years already.&nbsp; Another 13 years or more of near 0% interest rates doesn\u2019t seem so unlikely now.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quantitative easing (QE), which is often mistaken for money printing, is also more likely to result in asset price inflation (stocks in particular), rather than general inflation, as the video below explains.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"How Quantitative Easing Differs from Money Printing | QE Explained\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ZbqtpKk6iC8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Third industrial revolution&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the grand scheme of things, why does the stock market go up? In simple terms, this was innovation 100 years ago:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a33-1024x768.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28321\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a33-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a33-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a33-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a33-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a33-scaled.jpeg 2048w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a33-81x61.jpeg 81w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Now this is innovation\u2026\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"620\" src=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a34-1024x620.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a34-1024x620.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a34-300x182.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a34-768x465.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a34-81x49.jpeg 81w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a34.jpeg 1204w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Human society doesn\u2019t just stand still, regardless of all the doom and gloom out there. Just in the last few weeks, we have seen the \u201cbillionaire space race\u201d between Richard Branson and Jeff Bezos, which could herald the beginnings of a new industry (mass tourism out of earth).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"531\" src=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a42-1024x531.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28323\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a42-1024x531.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a42-300x155.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a42-768x398.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a42-1536x796.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a42-scaled.jpeg 2048w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a42-81x42.jpeg 81w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>We are also seeing technologies like AI and others play a bigger part in our lives. These technologies can allow the biggest firms to be more profitable over time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Netflix wasn&#8217;t even on the stock markets in 2010.  Now it is one of the biggest firms in the world.  By 2030 or 2040, I am sure there will be new firms on the stock market which haven&#8217;t even been invented today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>CAPES in Europe and Asia look great&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Many skeptics say that stocks look expensive.&nbsp; What they forget to mention is that stock markets outside of the US, and especially in Europe and Emerging Markets, look cheap.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The CAPE ratios in these markets are so cheap that US stock markets have only hit such levels twice in the last thirty years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is more, this is a long-running trend since 2006.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a4-1024x640.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28324\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a4-1024x640.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a4-300x188.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a4-768x480.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a4-133x83.jpeg 133w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a4-374x234.jpeg 374w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a4-81x51.jpeg 81w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a4.jpeg 1100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Source: Enjoyinvesting.com <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>That isn\u2019t to mention the aforementioned point on the historically low-interest rates, together with the model of the technology companies. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There is a good argument to suggest that we can\u2019t judge technology companies on the same price:earnings and CAPE ratio as traditional firms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Most technology companies reinvest profits, so sales growth can be more vital than p\/e ratios. Look at Amazon. For years it looked overvalued, but often the profitability was just catching up with the sales growth.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Comparing technology firms to oil&amp;gas companies, or manufacturers isn&#8217;t a great comparison.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>We have been through periods of stagnation like 65-82 and 2000-2010<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, let\u2019s say the skeptics are right, and US stock markets in particular go through a lost decade. This would be great for any young or relatively young investor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why?&nbsp; A good investor should consider himself\/herself to be as an artist.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a5.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28325\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a5.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a5-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a5-768x512.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a5-81x54.jpeg 81w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>An artist wants to collect as many paintings as possible.  A good investor should want to collect as many units as possible until they retire. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Let&#8217;s give a simple example. Investor A and B both invest $1,000 a month for thirty years.  Investor A gets 15% per year for the first 15 years, as they started to invest during a great time for stocks such as the 1982-2000 period. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, the returns are only 2% per year from years 16-30. In comparison, Investor B gets 0% per year from year 1 until 15, similar to the stagnation of 1965-1982. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, returns are 13% from years 16 until 30.  What is the end result? Person A has $1,095,381.59 after thirty years, and had $656,609.67 at the halfway mark of 15 years,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Person B only had $180,000 after 15 years, but had $1,673,829.49 at the end of the thirty years.  The reason?  The second investor received those 13% years when his\/her account was worth more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In comparison, the first investor received 15% returns in the early years when the account was worth less.  Many people might say &#8220;yes but Investor 3 could be in other investments for 15 years and then come in during the best moment&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet to paraphrase Vangaurd Founder Jack Bogle &#8220;I have never met anybody who has successful market timed. In fact, I have never met who knows anybody who has successful market timed&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At least long-term, it is impossible to time the market.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Reason against&nbsp;<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>There is, however, one group of people who might need to get used to lower returns.  That group is those who want to be in stocks, but also fixed-income.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Historically 100% in stocks has always beaten a mixed portfolio but the difference hasn&#8217;t been huge as the below information from Vanguard shows:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"602\" height=\"308\" src=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a37.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28326\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a37.png 602w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a37-300x153.png 300w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/a37-81x41.png 81w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" \/><figcaption>Source: Vangaurd <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>With interest and bond rates being so low, I doubt a 60%-40% or 50%-50% portfolio will do so well.  What is more likely is that a very aggressive portfolio, like 100% in stocks or even 80% stocks-20% bonds, will do just as well as historical norms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The bottom line is, nobody knows for sure, and analysis paralysis can cause more losses than anything else. Getting the investment process started is often half of the battle. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To quote Woody Allen &#8220;80% of success is just showing up&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>September 16 update &#8211;<\/strong> I will be having a client event on November 2 with Dragon&#8217;s Den star Kevin O&#8217;Leary.  To have the chance to attend, <a href=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/want-a-chance-to-speak-to-kevin-oleary-from-shark-tank\/\">haga clic aqu\u00ed.<\/a>  All existing clients will automatically be invited.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u00bfLe duele la indecisi\u00f3n financiera? \u00bfQuiere invertir con Adam?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/apply-now\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"604\" src=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/smile-beige-jacket-4-1024x604.png\" alt=\"Financial Planner - Adam Fayed\" class=\"wp-image-25823\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/smile-beige-jacket-4-1024x604.png 1024w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/smile-beige-jacket-4-300x177.png 300w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/smile-beige-jacket-4-768x453.png 768w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/smile-beige-jacket-4-81x48.png 81w, https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/smile-beige-jacket-4.png 1406w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link\" href=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/apply-now\/\">Solicitar<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link\" href=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/are-we-a-good-match-faqs\/\">Preguntas frecuentes<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link\" href=\"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/#contact-me\">P\u00f3ngase en contacto con<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Adam is an internationally recognised author on financial matters, with over&nbsp;287.4 million&nbsp;answers views on Quora.com and a widely sold book on Amazon<\/strong><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>is it still possible to get wealthy investing?<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":28327,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":{"facebook_10166176115445471_100883565069113":""},"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","footnotes":""},"categories":[11554],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-28318","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-expats"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28318","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=28318"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28318\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/28327"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=28318"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=28318"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/adamfayed.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=28318"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}